In perhaps this podcast’s most epic (we mean that literally) conversational journey to-date, Marlene and Jonathan with guest, leadership development coach Alisdair Smith, take you from critical explorations of authoritarianism and idealism, through tactical approaches to balancing effectiveness with efficiency, the value of naming, being a “learn-it-all,” honouring but not dwelling on the past, and the role of nurse logs in old growth forests. Just in case you’re worried they might lose the way, no fear – this is all harnessed to together exploring exactly how Leadership Practitioners use forward-focused mindsets to co-create possible positive, compelling and intriguing futures.